From peyn at ps.gen.nz  Mon Mar  8 08:22:40 2010
From: peyn at ps.gen.nz (Peter Eynon)
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 08:22:40 GMT
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Virtualacorn-list Digest, Vol 17, Issue 5
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> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:52:05 GMT
> From: Alan Adams <alan at adamshome.org.uk>
> To: virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk
> Subject: Re: [Virtualacorn-list] Fw: Subject: Setting the display size
>         on      VRPC
> Message-ID: <1415aeed50.Alan.Adams at laptop.adamshome.org.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

> In message <gemini.ky8rrj0021eqw037w.vince at softrock.co.uk>
>           Vince M Hudd <vince at softrock.co.uk> wrote:

> <snip>
>> Subject: Setting the display size on the HostFS::4.$ so that small
>> icons boot up at the start.

>> For a number of years I have manually adjusted the size of the icons
>> at the start of a session on the computer. From time to time I have
>> looked  for a menu line without success. Suggestions please.

>> I am using a Riscube. I think the operating system id Riscos 4.02.

> !Boot, filer, click small icons.

> Works here on 4.39, and I'm pretty sure also on 4.02

>> Peter of Tararu, Thames,NZ.

>> ------ End forwarded message ------

Alan,

My apology fora  delay in answering. No although the small icons is 
ticked (on) in the Filter Boot directory it does not follow that the 
icons on HostFS::HardDisc are small icons. Howver I do remember 
setting the Filer Boot small icons successfully before the more recent 
shift around of the hardware.

Peter

-- 
Peter Eynon of Tararu just North of  Thames, NZ


From b.boase at bcs.org  Sun Mar 14 19:32:57 2010
From: b.boase at bcs.org (Bernard Boase)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:32:57 GMT
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] VA Windows Controller
Message-ID: <200904f850.boase@boase.demon.co.uk>

In the VA forum, Aaron wrote about *HostOpen and VirtualAcorn Windows 
Controller, a RISC OS program. See his post of 20-Mar-2008 at:

http://www.virtualacorn.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=372&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=0

in which he said:

> *using the HostOpen command - with a keyboard controlled front end
> called the "VirtualAcorn Windows Controller". If you check the RISC OS
> Task Manger you may find the VirtualAcorn Windows Controller running.
> If so then ALT double clicking on a filetype known to Windows (JPEG,
> HTML, Text etc) will load this file into the appropriate Windows
> application.

I use VRPC-AdjustSA but cannot find this program anywhere. It looks 
handy. Where can it be obtained?

-- 
Bernard


From pittdj at pittdj.co.uk  Mon Mar 15 07:52:32 2010
From: pittdj at pittdj.co.uk (David Pitt)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 07:52:32 +0000
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] VA Windows Controller
In-Reply-To: <200904f850.boase@boase.demon.co.uk>
References: <200904f850.boase@boase.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <mpro.kzbcjh00002lg00bx.pittdj@pittdj.co.uk>

Bernard Boase <b.boase at bcs.org> wrote:

> In the VA forum, Aaron wrote about *HostOpen and VirtualAcorn Windows
> Controller, a RISC OS program. See his post of 20-Mar-2008 at:
> 
>
http://www.virtualacorn.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=372&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=0
> 
> in which he said:
> 
> > *using the HostOpen command - with a keyboard controlled front end
> > called the "VirtualAcorn Windows Controller". If you check the RISC OS
> > Task Manger you may find the VirtualAcorn Windows Controller running. If
> > so then ALT double clicking on a filetype known to Windows (JPEG, HTML,
> > Text etc) will load this file into the appropriate Windows application.
> 
> I use VRPC-AdjustSA but cannot find this program anywhere. It looks handy.
> Where can it be obtained?
> 
VirtualAcorn Windows Controller is WinCtrl should be in
Choices.Default.Boot.Tasks in the Windows version of VRPC-AdjustSA.

The command *hostopen is provided by the HostFS module.

-- 
David Pitt


From b.boase at bcs.org  Mon Mar 15 12:46:56 2010
From: b.boase at bcs.org (Bernard Boase)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:46:56 GMT
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] VA Windows Controller
In-Reply-To: <mpro.kzbcjh00002lg00bx.pittdj@pittdj.co.uk>
References: <200904f850.boase@boase.demon.co.uk>
	<mpro.kzbcjh00002lg00bx.pittdj@pittdj.co.uk>
Message-ID: <11b362f850.boase@boase.demon.co.uk>

On 15 Mar, David Pitt <pittdj at pittdj.co.uk> wrote:

> Bernard Boase <b.boase at bcs.org> wrote:

>> In the VA forum, Aaron wrote about *HostOpen and VirtualAcorn Windows
>> Controller, a RISC OS program. See his post of 20-Mar-2008 at:
>> 
>>
> http://www.virtualacorn.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=372&st=0&sk=t&
> sd=a&start=0
>> 
>> in which he said:
>> 
>>> *using the HostOpen command - with a keyboard controlled front end
>>> called the "VirtualAcorn Windows Controller". If you check the RISC OS
>>> Task Manger you may find the VirtualAcorn Windows Controller running. If
>>> so then ALT double clicking on a filetype known to Windows (JPEG, HTML,
>>> Text etc) will load this file into the appropriate Windows application.
>> 
>> I use VRPC-AdjustSA but cannot find this program anywhere. It looks handy.
>> Where can it be obtained?
>> 
> VirtualAcorn Windows Controller is WinCtrl should be in
> Choices.Default.Boot.Tasks in the Windows version of VRPC-AdjustSA.

> The command *hostopen is provided by the HostFS module.

Interesting. My Choices.Default.Boot.Tasks is empty, and a search in 
!Boot for an object called WinCtrl finds nowt.

But wait ... here's a backup directory $.BootNnnnn which must have 
been created on upgrading to Select. It contains several things which 
I obviously should have copied over at the time, including, I'm 
pleased to report, the Absolute WinCtrl which, after execution, causes 
Alt-Gr-dclick-Select to act as described by Aaron. And "VA Windows 
Controller" now appears in Task Manager's list of Tasks.

Many thanks,

-- 
Bernard


From julianfry at orpheusmail.co.uk  Mon Mar 15 14:22:49 2010
From: julianfry at orpheusmail.co.uk (Julian Fry)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:22:49 GMT
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] VA Windows Controller
In-Reply-To: <11b362f850.boase@boase.demon.co.uk>
References: <200904f850.boase@boase.demon.co.uk>
	<mpro.kzbcjh00002lg00bx.pittdj@pittdj.co.uk>
	<11b362f850.boase@boase.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <507a6bf850.Root@julianfry.orpheusnet.co.uk>

Bernard,

[snip]

>> 

> Interesting. My Choices.Default.Boot.Tasks is empty, and a search in
> !Boot for an object called WinCtrl finds nowt.

> But wait ... here's a backup directory $.BootNnnnn which must have
> been created on upgrading to Select. It contains several things which
> I obviously should have copied over at the time, including, I'm
> pleased to report, the Absolute WinCtrl which, after execution, causes
> Alt-Gr-dclick-Select to act as described by Aaron. And "VA Windows
> Controller" now appears in Task Manager's list of Tasks.

Also very interesting. I thought I had a similar directory - and I do 
have a couple which seem to be backups - but I can't find WinCtrl in 
any of them.

Perhaps you would send me a copy and let me know what other goodies 
you found that should have been copied across.

Thanks.

-- 
Cheers

Julian


From b.boase at bcs.org  Mon Mar 15 15:24:01 2010
From: b.boase at bcs.org (Bernard Boase)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:24:01 GMT
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] VA Windows Controller
In-Reply-To: <507a6bf850.Root@julianfry.orpheusnet.co.uk>
References: <200904f850.boase@boase.demon.co.uk>
	<mpro.kzbcjh00002lg00bx.pittdj@pittdj.co.uk>
	<11b362f850.boase@boase.demon.co.uk>
	<507a6bf850.Root@julianfry.orpheusnet.co.uk>
Message-ID: <f41471f850.boase@boase.demon.co.uk>

On 15 Mar, Julian Fry <julianfry at orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:

> On 15 Mar, Bernard Boase <b.boase at bcs.org> wrote:

>> Interesting. My Choices.Default.Boot.Tasks is empty, and a search in
>> !Boot for an object called WinCtrl finds nowt.

> Perhaps you would send me a copy and let me know what other goodies
> you found that should have been copied across.

There are four items in Boot75782.Choices.Default.Boot.Tasks:

     SyncClock  Obey
     iSV?Patch  Absolute
     WinCtrl    Absolute
     MouseSync  Module

I've copied them all to !Boot.Choices.Default.Boot.Tasks. I haven't 
yet tried to discover what the other three are for, but perhaps others 
here can advise.

-- 
Bernard


From robin at brushford.com  Mon Mar 15 15:18:36 2010
From: robin at brushford.com (Robin Hampshire)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:18:36 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] VA Windows Controller
In-Reply-To: <507a6bf850.Root@julianfry.orpheusnet.co.uk>
References: <200904f850.boase@boase.demon.co.uk>
	<mpro.kzbcjh00002lg00bx.pittdj@pittdj.co.uk>
	<11b362f850.boase@boase.demon.co.uk>
	<507a6bf850.Root@julianfry.orpheusnet.co.uk>
Message-ID: <50f87095farobin@brushford.com>

In article <507a6bf850.Root at julianfry.orpheusnet.co.uk>,
   Julian Fry <julianfry at orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:
> Bernard,

> [snip]

> >> 

> > Interesting. My Choices.Default.Boot.Tasks is empty, and a search in
> > !Boot for an object called WinCtrl finds nowt.

> > But wait ... here's a backup directory $.BootNnnnn which must have
> > been created on upgrading to Select. It contains several things which
> > I obviously should have copied over at the time, including, I'm
> > pleased to report, the Absolute WinCtrl which, after execution, causes
> > Alt-Gr-dclick-Select to act as described by Aaron. And "VA Windows
> > Controller" now appears in Task Manager's list of Tasks.

> Also very interesting. I thought I had a similar directory - and I do 
> have a couple which seem to be backups - but I can't find WinCtrl in 
> any of them.

> Perhaps you would send me a copy and let me know what other goodies 
> you found that should have been copied across.

I would also be grateful for a copy, as I do not have that module anywhere
on my VRPC harddisk(s).

regards,

-- 
Robin Hampshire
robin at brushford.com


From ATimbrell at aol.com  Mon Mar 15 16:19:55 2010
From: ATimbrell at aol.com (ATimbrell at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:19:55 EDT
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] VA Windows Controller
Message-ID: <49561.61f713a8.38cfb82b@aol.com>

In a message dated 15/03/2010 15:38:11 GMT Standard Time,  
robin at brushford.com writes:

>> Also very interesting. I thought I had a similar directory - and I  do 
>> have a couple which seem to be backups - but I can't find  WinCtrl in 
>> any of them.

>> Perhaps you would send me a  copy and let me know what other goodies 
>> you found that should have  been copied across.

>I would also be grateful for a copy, as I do not  have that module anywhere
>on my VRPC harddisk(s).
 
I apologise for butting in at the point, however not all versions of  
VirtualRPC
ship with the VirtualAcorn Windows Controller (see the products page
on our website). It's normally supplied only with the StrongArm  versions
of VirtualRPC.
 
So those running VirtualRPC-SE or VirtualRPCAdjust won't normally
have the Windows Controller in their boot sequences.
 
Aaron (VirtualAcorn)
 
 


From robin at brushford.com  Mon Mar 15 17:19:17 2010
From: robin at brushford.com (Robin Hampshire)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:19:17 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] VA Windows Controller
In-Reply-To: <49561.61f713a8.38cfb82b@aol.com>
References: <49561.61f713a8.38cfb82b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <50f87ba277robin@brushford.com>

In article <49561.61f713a8.38cfb82b at aol.com>,
   <ATimbrell at aol.com> wrote:
>  
> So those running VirtualRPC-SE or VirtualRPCAdjust won't normally
> have the Windows Controller in their boot sequences.
>  

Is it a chargeable addition then, and if so how much?

regards,

-- 
Robin Hampshire
robin at brushford.com


From briancarroll at f2s.com  Mon Mar 15 18:12:26 2010
From: briancarroll at f2s.com (Brian Carroll)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:12:26 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] VA Windows Controller
In-Reply-To: <f41471f850.boase@boase.demon.co.uk>
References: <200904f850.boase@boase.demon.co.uk>
	<mpro.kzbcjh00002lg00bx.pittdj@pittdj.co.uk>
	<11b362f850.boase@boase.demon.co.uk>
	<507a6bf850.Root@julianfry.orpheusnet.co.uk>
	<f41471f850.boase@boase.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <50f8808006briancarroll@f2s.com>

In article <f41471f850.boase at boase.demon.co.uk>, Bernard Boase
<b.boase at bcs.org> wrote:

> There are four items in Boot75782.Choices.Default.Boot.Tasks:

>      SyncClock  Obey
>      iSV Patch  Absolute
>      WinCtrl    Absolute
>      MouseSync  Module

> I've copied them all to !Boot.Choices.Default.Boot.Tasks. I
> haven't yet tried to discover what the other three are for,
> but perhaps others here can advise.

SyncClock keeps the RiscPC clock in step with the PC clock every
n seconds where n is the parameter given to the *SyncClock
command (60 in my copy here).  Use *H.SyncClock for more info.


Brian.

-- 
______________________________________________________________

Brian Carroll, Ripon, N Yorks, UK  briancarroll at f2s dot com
______________________________________________________________


From dave at triffid.co.uk  Mon Mar 15 20:21:00 2010
From: dave at triffid.co.uk (Dave Symes)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:21:00 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Printing
Message-ID: <50f88c452bdave@triffid.co.uk>

Most of the time I'm really enthusiastic about playing with/using my
computers, but other times I hate the sodding things and wish I'd never
encountered them.

This is such a moment, so perspicacity indicates I need some advice.

VirtualRPC-AdjustSA and the Printer HPLJ5p was connected directly via USB
to the machine.

VRPC printing was set up as per the handbook and worked.

I have now changed the whole printing setup, and all the PC are LAN
connected to the Printer which is connected via USB to a DS110j which acts
as the print server.

This system works perfectly okay with the underlying WinPCs, but I just
cannot get VRPC to print.

Using the VRPC tool "ShowPrinters" it is shown in the list as
"\\DISKSTATION\usbprinter"  Which is what it is on the PC side.

I'll not bother with the things I've tried as they all failed, and yes I
have re-viewed the VRPC manual...

Can some kind soul take pity and throw some advice in my direction.

Thanks
Dave

-- 

Dave Triffid


From dave at triffid.co.uk  Tue Mar 16 06:13:46 2010
From: dave at triffid.co.uk (Dave Symes)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 06:13:46 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Printing
In-Reply-To: <50f88c452bdave@triffid.co.uk>
References: <50f88c452bdave@triffid.co.uk>
Message-ID: <50f8c28a4adave@triffid.co.uk>


[Snip]

Mmnnn! after some messing with the Win printer Port configs, VRPC is now
printing through the server.

So sorted.
Dave

-- 

Dave Triffid


From dave at triffid.co.uk  Tue Mar 16 06:49:59 2010
From: dave at triffid.co.uk (Dave Symes)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 06:49:59 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Printing
In-Reply-To: <50f8c28a4adave@triffid.co.uk>
References: <50f88c452bdave@triffid.co.uk> <50f8c28a4adave@triffid.co.uk>
Message-ID: <50f8c5db43dave@triffid.co.uk>

On 16 Mar, dave at triffid.co.uk wrote:

> [Snip]

> Mmnnn! after some messing with the Win printer Port configs, VRPC is now
> printing through the server.

> So sorted.
> Dave

PS: If anyone is interested about where I was going wrong, Post and I'll
'xplain.
D

-- 

Dave Triffid


From mjdb at dorevale.demon.co.uk  Tue Mar 16 08:57:22 2010
From: mjdb at dorevale.demon.co.uk (M J D Brown)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:57:22 -0000
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Printing
References: <50f88c452bdave@triffid.co.uk>
Message-ID: <92055DBE9FA54E379AA1D5455018BB7E@Powerstation>

Dave,

Have you changed the spool file specified in the printer connections 
dialogue box?

Mike.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Symes" <dave at triffid.co.uk>
To: <virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk>
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 8:21 PM
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Printing


> Most of the time I'm really enthusiastic about playing with/using my
> computers, but other times I hate the sodding things and wish I'd 
> never
> encountered them.
>
> This is such a moment, so perspicacity indicates I need some advice.
>
> VirtualRPC-AdjustSA and the Printer HPLJ5p was connected directly via 
> USB
> to the machine.
>
> VRPC printing was set up as per the handbook and worked.
>
> I have now changed the whole printing setup, and all the PC are LAN
> connected to the Printer which is connected via USB to a DS110j which 
> acts
> as the print server.
>
> This system works perfectly okay with the underlying WinPCs, but I 
> just
> cannot get VRPC to print.
>
> Using the VRPC tool "ShowPrinters" it is shown in the list as
> "\\DISKSTATION\usbprinter"  Which is what it is on the PC side.
>
> I'll not bother with the things I've tried as they all failed, and yes 
> I
> have re-viewed the VRPC manual...
>
> Can some kind soul take pity and throw some advice in my direction.
>
> Thanks
> Dave
>
> -- 
>
> Dave Triffid
>
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> Virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk
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From chris at noonehere.co.uk  Tue Mar 16 18:43:58 2010
From: chris at noonehere.co.uk (Chris Hughes)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:43:58 GMT
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Printing
In-Reply-To: <50f8c5db43dave@triffid.co.uk>
References: <50f88c452bdave@triffid.co.uk> <50f8c28a4adave@triffid.co.uk>
	<50f8c5db43dave@triffid.co.uk>
Message-ID: <1a3907f950.chris@o2.co.uk>

In message <50f8c5db43dave at triffid.co.uk>
          Dave Symes <dave at triffid.co.uk> wrote:

> On 16 Mar, dave at triffid.co.uk wrote:

>> [Snip]

>> Mmnnn! after some messing with the Win printer Port configs, VRPC is now
>> printing through the server.

>> So sorted.
>> Dave

> PS: If anyone is interested about where I was going wrong, Post and I'll
> 'xplain.
> D

I'll bit, what was the answer?, it might fix a similar problem I have 
with a different set-up.

-- 
Chris Hughes


From dave at triffid.co.uk  Thu Mar 18 06:21:08 2010
From: dave at triffid.co.uk (Dave Symes)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 06:21:08 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Printing
In-Reply-To: <1a3907f950.chris@o2.co.uk>
References: <50f88c452bdave@triffid.co.uk> <50f8c28a4adave@triffid.co.uk>
	<50f8c5db43dave@triffid.co.uk> <1a3907f950.chris@o2.co.uk>
Message-ID: <50f9cae321dave@triffid.co.uk>

In article <1a3907f950.chris at o2.co.uk>,
   Chris Hughes <chris at noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <50f8c5db43dave at triffid.co.uk>
>           Dave Symes <dave at triffid.co.uk> wrote:

> > On 16 Mar, dave at triffid.co.uk wrote:

> >> [Snip]

> >> Mmnnn! after some messing with the Win printer Port configs, VRPC is
> >> now printing through the server.

> >> So sorted.
> >> Dave

> > PS: If anyone is interested about where I was going wrong, Post and
> > I'll 'xplain. D

> I'll bit, what was the answer?, it might fix a similar problem I have 
> with a different set-up.

I thought I had it all sorted, but then, a few days later, suddenly (I
know not why) Nothing would print over the network through the DS110j.
Nothing from the Win PC and nothing through VRPC.

(Printer was okay, for if I unplugged from DS110j and plugged in direc to
the computer USB it printed).

I still have no idea why, or what, but I scrapped everything and after two
days of work have managed to get it printing again... PC and VRPC on all
machines.

I think because one of the PC is Win 7 (Just like Vista throttled by
arcane permissions) is probably the main problem.

Re-setting up the XP machines and the VRPCs on them was quite easy, but
for some reason, the Win 7 just would not print anything to anywhere.
However I've now fiddled with the archane (Beyond comprehension)
permission, and for the time being it does print PC and VRPC.

We shall see after it's been shut down, and I power it up again after
work.  :-(

Dave

-- 

Dave Triffid


From dave at triffid.co.uk  Thu Mar 18 19:52:08 2010
From: dave at triffid.co.uk (Dave Symes)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:52:08 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Printing
In-Reply-To: <50f9cae321dave@triffid.co.uk>
References: <50f88c452bdave@triffid.co.uk> <50f8c28a4adave@triffid.co.uk>
	<50f8c5db43dave@triffid.co.uk> <1a3907f950.chris@o2.co.uk>
	<50f9cae321dave@triffid.co.uk>
Message-ID: <50fa1522f9dave@triffid.co.uk>

In article <50f9cae321dave at triffid.co.uk>,
   Dave Symes <dave at triffid.co.uk> wrote:

[Snip]

> Re-setting up the XP machines and the VRPCs on them was quite easy, but
> for some reason, the Win 7 just would not print anything to anywhere.
> However I've now fiddled with the archane (Beyond comprehension)
> permission, and for the time being it does print PC and VRPC.

> We shall see after it's been shut down, and I power it up again after
> work.  :-(

> Dave

Yes well, there are just not enough expletives in the know universe to
cover my annoyance.

Home from work, had a nibble and a cup 'o tea the started up all the Win
PC machines... Not a single expletive thing would print from any of them.

Not a thing changed from this morning.

Fuc*** about for a while and got the XP ,machine back in to print, but the
sodding Win 7 again resolutely refuses to print.

Been and had a nice soak in the bath to relax, now time to have another go.

Dave

-- 

Dave Triffid


From dave at triffid.co.uk  Thu Mar 18 21:29:45 2010
From: dave at triffid.co.uk (Dave Symes)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:29:45 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Printing
In-Reply-To: <50fa1522f9dave@triffid.co.uk>
References: <50f88c452bdave@triffid.co.uk> <50f8c28a4adave@triffid.co.uk>
	<50f8c5db43dave@triffid.co.uk> <1a3907f950.chris@o2.co.uk>
	<50f9cae321dave@triffid.co.uk> <50fa1522f9dave@triffid.co.uk>
Message-ID: <50fa1e12a3dave@triffid.co.uk>

On 18 Mar, dave at triffid.co.uk wrote:
[Snippy]
> Been and had a nice soak in the bath to relax, now time to have another
> go.

Still nothing, so shut down Win 7 machine, went and had a cuppa. then
returned.
Switched Win 7 machine back on, and the ...... thing printed okay.

Did some more messing with the server and the Win 7 machine, it still
prints okay...
So everything now shut down until early AM tomorrow, I wonder what the new
day will bring.
Dave

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From druck at druck.org.uk  Fri Mar 19 08:10:56 2010
From: druck at druck.org.uk (David J. Ruck)
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 08:10:56 +0000
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Printing
In-Reply-To: <50fa1e12a3dave@triffid.co.uk>
References: <50f88c452bdave@triffid.co.uk>
	<50f8c28a4adave@triffid.co.uk>	<50f8c5db43dave@triffid.co.uk>
	<1a3907f950.chris@o2.co.uk>	<50f9cae321dave@triffid.co.uk>
	<50fa1522f9dave@triffid.co.uk> <50fa1e12a3dave@triffid.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4BA33190.2070300@druck.org.uk>

On 18/03/2010 21:29, Dave Symes wrote:
> On 18 Mar, dave at triffid.co.uk wrote:
> [Snippy]
>> Been and had a nice soak in the bath to relax, now time to have another
>> go.
>
> Still nothing, so shut down Win 7 machine, went and had a cuppa. then
> returned.

Is this VA-list or Twitter?

-- 
David J. Ruck
email: druck at druck.org.uk
phone: +44(0)7974 108301



From dave at triffid.co.uk  Fri Mar 19 08:44:14 2010
From: dave at triffid.co.uk (Dave Symes)
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 08:44:14 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Printing
In-Reply-To: <4BA33190.2070300@druck.org.uk>
References: <50f88c452bdave@triffid.co.uk>
	<50f8c28a4adave@triffid.co.uk>	<50f8c5db43dave@triffid.co.uk>
	<1a3907f950.chris@o2.co.uk>	<50f9cae321dave@triffid.co.uk>
	<50fa1522f9dave@triffid.co.uk> <50fa1e12a3dave@triffid.co.uk>
	<4BA33190.2070300@druck.org.uk>
Message-ID: <50fa5bd313dave@triffid.co.uk>

In article <4BA33190.2070300 at druck.org.uk>,
   David J. Ruck <druck at druck.org.uk> wrote:
> On 18/03/2010 21:29, Dave Symes wrote:
> > On 18 Mar, dave at triffid.co.uk wrote: [Snippy]
> >> Been and had a nice soak in the bath to relax, now time to have
> >> another go.
> >
> > Still nothing, so shut down Win 7 machine, went and had a cuppa. then
> > returned.

> Is this VA-list or Twitter?

Yea, sorry about that, it did turn in to a bit of a blog/twitter.
Dave

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From dave at triffid.co.uk  Sat Mar 20 06:49:29 2010
From: dave at triffid.co.uk (Dave Symes)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 06:49:29 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Printing
In-Reply-To: <50fa1e12a3dave@triffid.co.uk>
References: <50f88c452bdave@triffid.co.uk> <50f8c28a4adave@triffid.co.uk>
	<50f8c5db43dave@triffid.co.uk> <1a3907f950.chris@o2.co.uk>
	<50f9cae321dave@triffid.co.uk> <50fa1522f9dave@triffid.co.uk>
	<50fa1e12a3dave@triffid.co.uk>
Message-ID: <50fad52768dave@triffid.co.uk>


[Snip]

To sort of conclude my bit of twit/blog.

I have now restored Printing via the server on all native Win OSs and
Ubuntu, but it has proven impossible to get VRPC  on any of the machines
to print.
(They obviously still print if I connect the Printer direct to the
computer USB)

If any kind soul thinks he/she might have some useful pointers, I'd
appreciate some private contact.

Thanks
Dave

-- 

Dave Triffid


From dave at triffid.co.uk  Sun Mar 21 21:05:16 2010
From: dave at triffid.co.uk (Dave Symes)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:05:16 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Printing
In-Reply-To: <50fad52768dave@triffid.co.uk>
References: <50fad52768dave@triffid.co.uk>
Message-ID: <50fba756d3dave@triffid.co.uk>

To conclude...

Though the firmware on my DS110j was quite recent, this afternoon I
updated it to the latest version 2.3-1141 and lo and behold all my printer
woes have gone away.
It has also sorted the problem of the DS110j not seeing the printer if it
is switched on a while after the DS110j has been running.

Additionally, the new firmware has sorted the problem (In a similar vein)
that any external harddrive hotplugged after the DS110j was already
running was not seen by the thing

So, I know there are a few here with the device... I guess it would be a
good idea to update the firmware.

I can now print through PC and VRPC okay.
Dave

-- 

Dave Triffid


From barry.punchard at btinternet.com  Tue Mar 23 09:11:34 2010
From: barry.punchard at btinternet.com (Barry Punchard)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:11:34 +0200
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Keyboard compatibility
Message-ID: <baab6dfc50.barry.punchard@barry.btinternet.com>

I was forced to buy an HP dv5-1250ej laptop here in Israel as my UK one
suddenly failed irrecoverably.  I am running Virtual RPC-AdjustSA with
RISC OS 4.39 under Windows Vista Home on it.  I have applied all the
available relevant updates including Service Pack 2. It is a dual language
machine and OS and I opted for the English installation.

A problem I have is that some keyboard keys under RISCOS either produce
output different from key markings or no output at all. I presume it is a
keyboard driver / mapping problem on the RISCOS side as the computer was
bought abroad and has essentially a modern US keyboard. On the Windows
side all keys work as marked OK.

On the PC side:
The Keyboard hardware properties are set to 'Standard 101/102=Key or
Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard with HP QLB'.

'Regional and Language' > 'Keyboard and Languages' is set to 'English
..US'.

On the RISCOS side:
I have tried a few things including setting 'Country' to USA instead of
'UK' at the command line config, and in 'Boot Config', 'input', 'keyboard'
to 'USA' in place of 'UK(default)'

It is currently and for the results below set as:
In Status:
Territory 1
GMT
Timezone  +2:0
Country   UK

In config:
Input > Keyboard:  USA

The effects I get are, from keys marked as:
 ~ and ;   to left of '1'            - No O/P
+ and = to the right of '-' and '_'  - No O/P
{ and [ to the right of 'P'          - No O/P
} and ] to the right again of that   - { and [
: and ; to the right of 'L'          - OK
" and ' to the right again of that   - No O/P
| and \ to the right again of that   - } and ]
another
| and \ to the left of 'Z'           - No O/P

I think everything else is OK.

Any comments as to how to fix things, please?  Also it is a real pain not
having a UK pounds key.  Even using !Charsel there is no uk pounds char.
Maybe because I now have keyboard set to USA?

TIA Barry

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From chris at noonehere.co.uk  Tue Mar 23 10:01:38 2010
From: chris at noonehere.co.uk (Chris Hughes)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 10:01:38 GMT
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Keyboard compatibility
In-Reply-To: <baab6dfc50.barry.punchard@barry.btinternet.com>
References: <baab6dfc50.barry.punchard@barry.btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <db4072fc50.chris@o2.co.uk>

In message <baab6dfc50.barry.punchard at barry.btinternet.com>
          Barry Punchard <barry.punchard at btinternet.com> wrote:

> I was forced to buy an HP dv5-1250ej laptop here in Israel as my UK one
> suddenly failed irrecoverably.  I am running Virtual RPC-AdjustSA with
> RISC OS 4.39 under Windows Vista Home on it.  I have applied all the
> available relevant updates including Service Pack 2. It is a dual language
> machine and OS and I opted for the English installation.

> A problem I have is that some keyboard keys under RISCOS either produce
> output different from key markings or no output at all. I presume it is a
> keyboard driver / mapping problem on the RISCOS side as the computer was
> bought abroad and has essentially a modern US keyboard. On the Windows
> side all keys work as marked OK.

> On the PC side:
> The Keyboard hardware properties are set to 'Standard 101/102=Key or
> Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard with HP QLB'.

> 'Regional and Language' > 'Keyboard and Languages' is set to 'English
> ..US'.

Might I suggest as a first step changing this to "English UK", this 
will then use a UK layout and should give you a Pound sign....


-- 
Chris Hughes
Come to the Wakefield Show
24th April 2010 - http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk


From barry.punchard at btinternet.com  Tue Mar 23 11:34:15 2010
From: barry.punchard at btinternet.com (Barry Punchard)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:34:15 +0200
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Keyboard compatibility
In-Reply-To: <db4072fc50.chris@o2.co.uk>
References: <baab6dfc50.barry.punchard@barry.btinternet.com>
	<db4072fc50.chris@o2.co.uk>
Message-ID: <bdbb7afc50.barry.punchard@barry.btinternet.com>

On 23 Mar          chris at noonehere.co.uk wrote:

> In message <baab6dfc50.barry.punchard at barry.btinternet.com>
>           Barry Punchard <barry.punchard at btinternet.com> wrote:
> 
> > I was forced to buy an HP dv5-1250ej laptop here in Israel as my UK one
> > suddenly failed irrecoverably.  I am running Virtual RPC-AdjustSA with
> > RISC OS 4.39 under Windows Vista Home on it.  I have applied all the
> > available relevant updates including Service Pack 2. It is a dual language
> > machine and OS and I opted for the English installation.
> 
> > A problem I have is that some keyboard keys under RISCOS either produce
> > output different from key markings or no output at all. I presume it is a
> > keyboard driver / mapping problem on the RISCOS side as the computer was
> > bought abroad and has essentially a modern US keyboard. On the Windows
> > side all keys work as marked OK.
> 
> > On the PC side:
> > The Keyboard hardware properties are set to 'Standard 101/102=Key or
> > Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard with HP QLB'.
> 
> > 'Regional and Language' > 'Keyboard and Languages' is set to 'English
> > ..US'.
> 
> Might I suggest as a first step changing this to "English UK", this 
> will then use a UK layout and should give you a Pound sign....
> 
I went to Regional & Language Options and only have English(US) or Hebrew
(Israel).  Trying to Add Input Language won't let any other to be loaded
and buttons are greyed.  Does that suggest I need a language pack install?


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From chris at noonehere.co.uk  Tue Mar 23 12:36:47 2010
From: chris at noonehere.co.uk (Chris Hughes)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 12:36:47 GMT
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Keyboard compatibility
In-Reply-To: <bdbb7afc50.barry.punchard@barry.btinternet.com>
References: <baab6dfc50.barry.punchard@barry.btinternet.com>
	<db4072fc50.chris@o2.co.uk>
	<bdbb7afc50.barry.punchard@barry.btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <597580fc50.chris@o2.co.uk>

In message <bdbb7afc50.barry.punchard at barry.btinternet.com>
          Barry Punchard <barry.punchard at btinternet.com> wrote:

> On 23 Mar          chris at noonehere.co.uk wrote:

>> In message <baab6dfc50.barry.punchard at barry.btinternet.com>
>>           Barry Punchard <barry.punchard at btinternet.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I was forced to buy an HP dv5-1250ej laptop here in Israel as my UK one
>>> suddenly failed irrecoverably.  I am running Virtual RPC-AdjustSA with
>>> RISC OS 4.39 under Windows Vista Home on it.  I have applied all the
>>> available relevant updates including Service Pack 2. It is a dual language
>>> machine and OS and I opted for the English installation.
>> 
>>> A problem I have is that some keyboard keys under RISCOS either produce
>>> output different from key markings or no output at all. I presume it is a
>>> keyboard driver / mapping problem on the RISCOS side as the computer was
>>> bought abroad and has essentially a modern US keyboard. On the Windows
>>> side all keys work as marked OK.
>> 
>>> On the PC side:
>>> The Keyboard hardware properties are set to 'Standard 101/102=Key or
>>> Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard with HP QLB'.
>> 
>>> 'Regional and Language' > 'Keyboard and Languages' is set to 'English
>>> ..US'.
>> 
>> Might I suggest as a first step changing this to "English UK", this
>> will then use a UK layout and should give you a Pound sign....
>> 
> I went to Regional & Language Options and only have English(US) or Hebrew
> (Israel).  Trying to Add Input Language won't let any other to be loaded
> and buttons are greyed.  Does that suggest I need a language pack install?

Your problem is related to the fact you brought the laptop overseas, 
so it comes with the local language pack.

Take a peek at: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306560

it might help you a bit, otherwise you need to find out if you can 
installed the English UK Keyboard.


-- 
Chris Hughes
Come to the Wakefield Show
24th April 2010 - http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk


From barry.punchard at btinternet.com  Tue Mar 23 13:58:41 2010
From: barry.punchard at btinternet.com (Barry Punchard)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:58:41 +0200
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Keyboard compatibility
In-Reply-To: <597580fc50.chris@o2.co.uk>
References: <baab6dfc50.barry.punchard@barry.btinternet.com>
	<db4072fc50.chris@o2.co.uk>
	<bdbb7afc50.barry.punchard@barry.btinternet.com>
	<597580fc50.chris@o2.co.uk>
Message-ID: <01f587fc50.barry.punchard@barry.btinternet.com>

On 23 Mar          chris at noonehere.co.uk wrote:

> In message <bdbb7afc50.barry.punchard at barry.btinternet.com>
>           Barry Punchard <barry.punchard at btinternet.com> wrote:
> 
> > On 23 Mar          chris at noonehere.co.uk wrote:
> 
> >> In message <baab6dfc50.barry.punchard at barry.btinternet.com>
> >>           Barry Punchard <barry.punchard at btinternet.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> I was forced to buy an HP dv5-1250ej laptop here in Israel as my UK one
> >>> suddenly failed irrecoverably.  I am running Virtual RPC-AdjustSA with
> >>> RISC OS 4.39 under Windows Vista Home on it.  I have applied all the
> >>> available relevant updates including Service Pack 2. It is a dual language
> >>> machine and OS and I opted for the English installation.
> >> 
> >>> A problem I have is that some keyboard keys under RISCOS either produce
> >>> output different from key markings or no output at all. I presume it is a
> >>> keyboard driver / mapping problem on the RISCOS side as the computer was
> >>> bought abroad and has essentially a modern US keyboard. On the Windows
> >>> side all keys work as marked OK.
> >> 
> >>> On the PC side:
> >>> The Keyboard hardware properties are set to 'Standard 101/102=Key or
> >>> Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard with HP QLB'.
> >> 
> >>> 'Regional and Language' > 'Keyboard and Languages' is set to 'English
> >>> ..US'.
> >> 
> >> Might I suggest as a first step changing this to "English UK", this
> >> will then use a UK layout and should give you a Pound sign....
> >> 
> > I went to Regional & Language Options and only have English(US) or Hebrew
> > (Israel).  Trying to Add Input Language won't let any other to be loaded
> > and buttons are greyed.  Does that suggest I need a language pack install?
> 
> Your problem is related to the fact you brought the laptop overseas, 
> so it comes with the local language pack.
> 
> Take a peek at: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306560
> 
> it might help you a bit, otherwise you need to find out if you can 
> installed the English UK Keyboard.
> 
Now I have input language English (UK) and keyboard (UK) on the PC side.
That changes the function of the PC keyboard to an English one as expected
(i.e. the # now displays the uk pounds sign).

But the main problem I wanted to solve was to get the keyboard to respond
under RISC OS with the chars as marked on the present keyboard. I can use
the alt keys for the occasional pound sign I guess, but not having a prime
or quote char, or square and curly brackets, is a pain.
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From chris at noonehere.co.uk  Tue Mar 23 14:10:53 2010
From: chris at noonehere.co.uk (Chris Hughes)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:10:53 GMT
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Keyboard compatibility
In-Reply-To: <01f587fc50.barry.punchard@barry.btinternet.com>
References: <baab6dfc50.barry.punchard@barry.btinternet.com>
	<db4072fc50.chris@o2.co.uk>
	<bdbb7afc50.barry.punchard@barry.btinternet.com>
	<597580fc50.chris@o2.co.uk>
	<01f587fc50.barry.punchard@barry.btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <9f1289fc50.chris@o2.co.uk>

In message <01f587fc50.barry.punchard at barry.btinternet.com>
          Barry Punchard <barry.punchard at btinternet.com> wrote:

> On 23 Mar          chris at noonehere.co.uk wrote:

>> In message <bdbb7afc50.barry.punchard at barry.btinternet.com>
>>           Barry Punchard <barry.punchard at btinternet.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 23 Mar          chris at noonehere.co.uk wrote:
>> 
>>>> In message <baab6dfc50.barry.punchard at barry.btinternet.com>
>>>>           Barry Punchard <barry.punchard at btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I was forced to buy an HP dv5-1250ej laptop here in Israel as my UK one
>>>>> suddenly failed irrecoverably.  I am running Virtual RPC-AdjustSA with
>>>>> RISC OS 4.39 under Windows Vista Home on it.  I have applied all the
>>>>> available relevant updates including Service Pack 2. It is a dual
>>>>> language
>>>>> machine and OS and I opted for the English installation.
>>>> 
>>>>> A problem I have is that some keyboard keys under RISCOS either produce
>>>>> output different from key markings or no output at all. I presume it is a
>>>>> keyboard driver / mapping problem on the RISCOS side as the computer was
>>>>> bought abroad and has essentially a modern US keyboard. On the Windows
>>>>> side all keys work as marked OK.
>>>> 
>>>>> On the PC side:
>>>>> The Keyboard hardware properties are set to 'Standard 101/102=Key or
>>>>> Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard with HP QLB'.
>>>> 
>>>>> 'Regional and Language' > 'Keyboard and Languages' is set to 'English
>>>>> ..US'.
>>>> 
>>>> Might I suggest as a first step changing this to "English UK", this
>>>> will then use a UK layout and should give you a Pound sign....
>>>> 
>>> I went to Regional & Language Options and only have English(US) or Hebrew
>>> (Israel).  Trying to Add Input Language won't let any other to be loaded
>>> and buttons are greyed.  Does that suggest I need a language pack install?
>> 
>> Your problem is related to the fact you brought the laptop overseas,
>> so it comes with the local language pack.
>> 
>> Take a peek at: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306560
>> 
>> it might help you a bit, otherwise you need to find out if you can
>> installed the English UK Keyboard.
>> 
> Now I have input language English (UK) and keyboard (UK) on the PC side.
> That changes the function of the PC keyboard to an English one as expected
> (i.e. the # now displays the uk pounds sign).

> But the main problem I wanted to solve was to get the keyboard to respond
> under RISC OS with the chars as marked on the present keyboard. I can use
> the alt keys for the occasional pound sign I guess, but not having a prime
> or quote char, or square and curly brackets, is a pain.

OK, so in RISC OS its needs to be configured to Territory 1 and 
Country UK

Remember to shutdown and restart VRPC when you have done this, 
although I am not sure why it does not use the info from the PC side 
anyway....

-- 
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Come to the Wakefield Show
24th April 2010 - http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk


From barry.punchard at btinternet.com  Tue Mar 23 14:48:52 2010
From: barry.punchard at btinternet.com (Barry Punchard)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:48:52 +0200
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Keyboard compatibility
In-Reply-To: <baab6dfc50.barry.punchard@barry.btinternet.com>
References: <baab6dfc50.barry.punchard@barry.btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <ee8c8cfc50.barry.punchard@barry.btinternet.com>

Sorry Chris. Let me reinstate some of my earlier text

On 23 Mar          barry.punchard at btinternet.com wrote:

> On the PC side:
> The Keyboard hardware properties are set to 'Standard 101/102=Key or
> Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard with HP QLB'.
> 
> 'Regional and Language' > 'Keyboard and Languages' is set to 'English
> ..US'.
> 
That is fine for PC work and all keys respond under Windows as they
should.

> On the RISCOS side:
<SNIP>
> It is currently set as:
> In Status:
> Territory 1
> GMT Timezone  +2:0
> Country   UK
> 
> In config:
> Input > Keyboard:  USA
> 
> The effects I get are, from keys marked as:
>  ~ and ;   to left of '1'            - No O/P
> + and = to the right of '-' and '_'  - No O/P
> { and [ to the right of 'P'          - No O/P
> } and ] to the right again of that   - { and [
> : and ; to the right of 'L'          - OK
> " and ' to the right again of that   - No O/P
> | and \ to the right again of that   - } and ]
> another
> | and \ to the left of 'Z'           - No O/P

Now if I change (in Config) Input > Keyboard from USA to UK the shift
2 & 3 keys produce " and ? instead of @ and # as under keyboard USA.  The
main problem is that under neither selection do the above key ranges
work.

I wonder if John Tytgat has produced a module that would do this.
 
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